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Frozen Bohemian
June 25th, 2007, 09:07 PM
What a difference a paint job on the Honda Clone motor tin makes. The generic blue clor is gone replaced by LIMETIME GREEN PEARL.
Exotic Paint makes the pearl base caot ( matches HOK Limetime)
Not a cheap way to go but not bad when you can buy small quantities.
The epoxy primer was 25 bucks, the green pearl was 10 bucks ( 4 ounces) and the clear with catalyst was left over from another project, (but figure about 40 bucks)
The epoxy primer was also used to paint the frame ,,, still in process.

The TAV converter and sprocket hub also got the green treatment.


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minidragbike
June 25th, 2007, 10:32 PM
That's clean man!

dtb69
June 26th, 2007, 12:23 AM
Frozen, very nice paint job,is the frame going to be same color? keep pics, coming dtb,,,,,,,,

voodoo_stepchild
June 30th, 2007, 06:52 PM
NIce looking paint. Looks great

Voodoo

elvergon
July 1st, 2007, 03:21 AM
it looks good but on the tav the shiny aluminum?? doesn´t fit...

at least that´s my .02

any other left overs?

Also...the screws holding the rear sprocket in place look like refrigerator ones... don´t you need grade bolts in there?

c.schulz
July 1st, 2007, 10:38 PM
The paint is great!! Where can I get this paint?? Do you have a link?? Thats great that it comes in small amouts.

Chris

Redrooster
July 1st, 2007, 11:54 PM
Nice paint job..... Looks awesome.....I like the rat fink....

Frozen Bohemian
July 2nd, 2007, 07:36 AM
Here is a link to INNATE Exotic Paints
http://www.innate.com/Paint/Xotic/Smaller_Formulations.htm (http://www.innate.com/Paint/Xotic/Smaller_Formulations.htm)

check out the chrome paint, that would be way cool on a barstool.

These guys match all of the House of Color paints, but can package them up anyway you need them, including airbrush sizes.

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The frame on my barstool is going to be Candy Tangerine Orange over gold metalflake. I saw this combination of colors at a car show last winter, and liked it.

http://www.barflyracers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2022&stc=1&d=1183375654

Terry Skinner
July 2nd, 2007, 11:18 AM
Also...the screws holding the rear sprocket in place look like refrigerator ones... don´t you need grade bolts in there?

So, OK lets do a ruff estimate. 6 screws approximately 1/8th inch per. That comes out 3/8ths of an inch of mild steel. Approximately 40,000 lbs of sheer strength per sq inch. So for the sake of argument we will call it 15,000 for those 6 bolts. That’s not including the friction of compressing the sprocket against the carrier. The engine puts out about 2 pounds feet of torque. Ya, I think it would work. In actuality the only reason to up the grade of the bolts is to increase the friction.........Terry

c.schulz
July 2nd, 2007, 06:05 PM
Man I love the theme that you have going. RAT FINK GREEN with the Engine turning. Whats next white walls with red wheels???


Chris

elvergon
July 2nd, 2007, 11:18 PM
So, OK lets do a ruff estimate. 6 screws approximately 1/8th inch per. That comes out 3/8ths of an inch of mild steel. Approximately 40,000 lbs of sheer strength per sq inch. So for the sake of argument we will call it 15,000 for those 6 bolts. That’s not including the friction of compressing the sprocket against the carrier. The engine puts out about 2 pounds feet of torque. Ya, I think it would work. In actuality the only reason to up the grade of the bolts is to increase the friction.........Terry


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

as far as mechanics of material have shown me in class... you can´t just calculate it that way...the force on the bolts would depend on the rear sprocket size, on the front sprocket size and on the engine torque...cause it is transmitted with a band... you´ll have to multiply sizes in order to obtain the correct force...

and "In actuality the only reason to up the grade of the bolts is to increase the friction"

that´s not true, grade bolts have better shear resistance cause they´re heat threated thus not normal steel

all sponsored by "Hibbeler-Mechanics of material book"

Frozen Bohemian
July 3rd, 2007, 07:43 AM
Funny how the simple things get rolling into a debate of applied mechanics.
Seriously this is great, it provides the opportunity to point out safe engineering practices.

The fasteners shown on the sprocket are 1/4" machine screws 300 series stainless steel. I used them to preassemble the sprocket .....because they were handy. I intend on replacing them with some 1/4" grade 8 steel cap screws and self locking nuts before final assembly.

It is good practice to always use grade 8 bolts any place they may be subject to a lot of stress, engine mounting, clutch mount,sprocket mount, etc. I will usually use grade 5 bolts everewhere else. On rare occasions I will use stainless steel bolts if they need to be polished to a bright finish.

So what have we learned

grade 8 -strong high tensile bolts (identified by the 6 lines on the head )
grade 5 -medium strength bolts (identified by the 3 lines on the head )
grade 2 - low strength bolts (identified by no markings on the head )

use high quality grade 8 bolts for stressed components.
use locknuts, lock washers, or locktight to keep the fasteners from falling off.

http://www.barflyracers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2023&stc=1&d=1183462296
grade 8 head marking

http://www.barflyracers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2024&stc=1&d=1183462296

grade 5 head marking


class dismissed...................

c.schulz
July 3rd, 2007, 08:49 AM
Funny how this tread moved away from topic of paint...............

Chris

elvergon
July 4th, 2007, 01:35 AM
Funny how the simple things get rolling into a debate of applied mechanics.
Seriously this is great, it provides the opportunity to point out safe engineering practices.

The fasteners shown on the sprocket are 1/4" machine screws 300 series stainless steel. I used them to preassemble the sprocket .....because they were handy. I intend on replacing them with some 1/4" grade 8 steel cap screws and self locking nuts before final assembly.

It is good practice to always use grade 8 bolts any place they may be subject to a lot of stress, engine mounting, clutch mount,sprocket mount, etc. I will usually use grade 5 bolts everewhere else. On rare occasions I will use stainless steel bolts if they need to be polished to a bright finish.

So what have we learned

grade 8 -strong high tensile bolts (identified by the 6 lines on the head )
grade 5 -medium strength bolts (identified by the 3 lines on the head )
grade 2 - low strength bolts (identified by no markings on the head )

use high quality grade 8 bolts for stressed components.
use locknuts, lock washers, or locktight to keep the fasteners from falling off.

http://www.barflyracers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2023&stc=1&d=1183462296
grade 8 head marking

http://www.barflyracers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2024&stc=1&d=1183462296

grade 5 head marking


class dismissed...................

I´ll sleep better tonight :D

Nice paint again!